Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?
Posted by Wolfbane on 7/20/2010 at 6:59 AM
I used to play a card game when I was sighted called Magic the Gathering card game. If you are unfamilar with the actual concepts of this card game then I could explain. Basically it's a strategy based card game using multiple elements to defeat your opponent. All participants are sorcessors trying to defeat one another's life points in the game. You have elements like fire, earth, dark, light or whatever terrian properties to summon things. These summongings are creatures, artifacts and enchantments to be used in your benefit throughout the game.
The essential problem is that there isn't any braille card games availible in Magic the Gathering. If there was like other games, the other player would have to tell you what they have flopped down. I think it would be wise to have it where you could have a manual brailler to take notes during the proceedings of the game to keep up with it all. I also used to play Dragonballz as well. What do you guys think I could do to play this game again? I wonder also if there is a conflict between this game and catholic christianity? I mean its just a game but when I played the game I was an atheist though.
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Re: Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by TheBlind.US on 11/17/2012 at 8:43 AM
Let me know where you get your games for the blind and I'll add it to my directory.
Donald The Blind Webmaster
The US Blind Resource Directory
Re: Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by ashimp on 11/3/2012 at 6:31 PM
Hello everyone. Just recently I've picked up Magic and am loving it. Unfortunately, I need someone to read the cards as I can't see them. JustDavid, if you ever do print a booklet of easy to read Magic symbols or do decide to use QR codes, please link me to whatever site you post them on.
Also, when brailling the sleaves, do you guys emboss directly onto the sleave or do you place an adhesive braille label on them? I'd love to hear any more suggestions or tips. I love playing the game, but requiring a friend to read the cards is frankly cumborsome and it also stops them from being able to participate in multi-player matches.
Re: Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by socalgal on 8/27/2012 at 7:00 PM
If you like Magic, there is a game called Race for the Galaxy you might like too. To play the card version, you would probably follow the advice given for magic. There is a free AI version online, but I don't know how well it will be audio described. The game is complicated even with the instrurtions. There is an App that has the insturctions, called Rulebooks. RFG is under Rio Grande games. Here is the link to the creator's website. http://keldon.net/rftg/
It has options for Windows and Mac OS X.
Re:Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by JustDavid on 3/4/2012 at 3:47 PM
Thanks for the reply, I like the idea of using QR codes to be read and give an audio description via smart phone. Before I look at creating a version of the cards like this, I'm looking at making embossed Icons for each ability and and card type. I'll create a booklet with braille (or maybe bar codes for audio a device / app ) for players to scan through to double check an icons meaning.
Re:Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by Lowbrass-Tetsusaiga on 2/8/2012 at 7:35 PM
Took awhile to get back to this forum, but the method of putting braille on the cards works well!
You might want to put the braille on sleeves if you intend on playing in tournaments, and the decks are sometimes cumbersome to shuffle or stand still so we are moving our process to electronic media and scanning devices.
Re:Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by JustDavid on 1/26/2012 at 7:16 AM
Not sure If this post is still active.
I am currently at University in England and I am doing a project in which I will be trying to redesign magic for the partially sighted and blind.
I would appreciate, if this post is still active that you could get in touch with me via email as I would like to conduct a small interview over skype or email, about your thoughts on magic and card games alike.
Re:Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by Lowbrass-Tetsusaiga on 5/18/2011 at 9:56 PM
A friend and I are trying braille labels on the front of the card and a numbered decklist that explains what each card does. I predict that it will work well, and i'll post the results here.
Re:Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by cambria688 on 12/1/2010 at 12:46 AM
Wow, that was a lot of useful information. I play on Magic Workstation a lot. I am not sure if this program would work with a screen reader or not.. I would think so, because it is a very basic program, and it is free to use and to play against people online. And as far as the religious factor - It all depends on the person really. I am a Christian, and believe that there is nothing wrong with the game. It's all for fun, and we know that it's not real, so it shouldn't be to big of a problem. But that's just my opinion and peoples' opinions on this matter are going to be different.
Re:Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by NinjaSloth on 9/1/2010 at 11:57 PM
I forgot to mention, it is already standard practice to say out loud every action that you are taking in a game of Magic. "I'm tapping my Llanowar Elves for a green mana", "I am using the green mana to play a second Llanowar Elves" etc... is stuff that should be said out loud among sighted players. If you are playing someone and have requested that they do this during play and they fail to, they will get either a game-loss due to the communication failure or, if it was found to have been intentional, they will be banned from sanctioned play for a year or longer for having been caught cheating.
Re:Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by NinjaSloth on 9/1/2010 at 11:47 PM
I am an avid Magic player. What you can do is print braille onto card sleeves. You don't want to print onto the card as that will "mark" the card making it unplayable in sanctioned tournaments and less valuable to a collector, but keeping them in marked sleeves is fine. The challenge is keeping in mind what your opponent has in play. You can always ask what is in play as that is regarded as "free information" in sanctioned play. In other words, the player has to answer questions like, "how many land do you have in play/untapped?" or "can you read the oracle text (rules text) for that creature you just played?". These are questions asked commonly by sighted players in matches, partially because players often play cards written in foreign languages -- japanese is popular. Not answering a "free information" question or answering dishonestly results in a game loss for cheating in sanctioned play. In unsanctioned play, anyone who would cheat is too childish to be worth playing.
At very high levels of play you would want to talk to judges ahead of times about the accommodation due to the language of the marked cards rules, but they will allow it as long as the deck is not unfairly marked to your advantage (i.e., in a way so that you would somehow know what your next card is before drawing). For casual play or sanctioned Friday Night Magic events, it is definitely not a problem.
I hope you get back into Magic: the Gathering -- the recent sets have been fantastic, and new or returning players are always welcome. Hope this helps.
Re:Magic the Gathering and unsupported card games in braille?Posted by Dice on 8/27/2010 at 7:08 PM
The way I see it, it might be more feasible to apply braille to Role-playing games, such as Tales of the Arabian Nights, which I used to play. That rpg used a Paragraph-system which means that the PAGES of a book was the game itself. If you are familiar with Paragraph-books, the BOOK itself is the Game.
What the Arabia game did was to combine a board-game type of system with a Paragraph-book system.
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